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True Saxon
11-09-05, 09:14
Ok, so other than a few tweaks here and there, the Show is almost complete.
Time for some feedback.
So what is your favourite feature or section?
K.F.C. (http://www.trailblazerz.net/images/gallery/albums/The%20Flow%20Show/07a.JPG)
Worm Berm and Jump (http://www.trailblazerz.net/images/gallery/albums/The%20Flow%20Show/14.JPG)
FT2 and Sister (http://www.trailblazerz.net/images/gallery/albums/The%20Flow%20Show/22.JPG)
Splashdown (http://www.trailblazerz.net/images/gallery/albums/The%20Flow%20Show/21.JPG)
Tabletop and Dirt (http://www.trailblazerz.net/images/gallery/albums/The%20Flow%20Show/31.JPG)
Woodstock (http://www.trailblazerz.net/images/gallery/albums/The%20Flow%20Show/34.JPG)
Shallow Graves (http://www.trailblazerz.net/images/gallery/albums/The%20Flow%20Show/41.JPG)
SeeSaw (http://www.trailblazerz.net/images/gallery/albums/The%20Flow%20Show/46.JPG)
Take a moment to think about it, make a vote and leave some feedback (good or bad). Feel free to comment on any other features too, all feedback is good.
Although i know the sections/features i prefer, the feedback from you people will help us in developing the next trail.
perhaps a technical jumpy trail, with some hips, step-ups and maybe a big curved wooden wallride?
a trail thats all about big air, big speed and big style?
as far as flowshow goes tho, woodstock and shallow graves do it for me!
the jump into two berms is always fun, aswell as the woops.
i would like to see a BIG scary gap jump (with a chicken run roung the side)
like this ,.. please
and an alternitive 'to flet' line off woodstock clearing
http://photo.pinkbike.com/photo/598/pbpic598593.jpg
I like the look of tissot/ red bull hip on fort bill but dont dare do it :cry:so i'd like to see one like that somewhere and mabe also a wall ride
i've stuck a vote in for KFC,on the grounds that although the drops isn't that big,it is a little bit tech without being too sketchy and it kind of wakes you up as to what to expect further down the trail (FC call them trail filters).
But i have say all the trails and every thing on them rock my world :devil:
yea, gd point, whistler blackcomb call them "squirrel catchers"
I thing there should be a really fast track with some big table top's and gap jumps
yeh i like speed!! mabe make a tissot type jump there
I dont think you could have a fast, big jumpy trail down the hill and have anymore than three (tops) big gap jumps as you need distance to get set up and a fair ammount after the jump, besides you can go as big as you want on tresspass, alough i think a fast twisty mud track is in order with one big gap jump, but alternitive hip lines off it which make a smaller gap, somethinglike the above cearsws photo
Yeh that'd rock. I'd love to be able to do the pic jump above.
:D :D its great :D :D
if we have something that size tis always something to work up to
and an alternitive 'to flat' line off woodstock clearing
well looks like i got what i wanted
:D :D
well looks like i got what i wanted
now allwe need is the caresws gap :P
The whole trail is good for me, voted FT2 as you can make it as large as you want, but you still need to land with the next section in mind.
A wallride would be good if strategically placed, maybe after Shallow Grave (possible ladder landing) to help maintain speed for the next section. Otherwise further back up the trail to kick you back up the hill via a rising technical skinny section (doesn't have to be more than .75m off of the floor) just to utilise more of the hills gradient.
Big gaps are ok if you have the space, but they tend to need a good length run in and out, and with the hillside you have this maybe wastefull of the space.
Chicksands have crammed a lot of shore into a small area and most of it looks jey as fcuk until you ride it...narrow, twisty and undulating but great fun.
http://67.18.37.15/1168/48/upload/p9310515.jpg
http://67.18.37.15/1168/48/upload/p9310516.jpg
Whatever you do I'm sure it'll be cool cos you haven't failed as of yet ! :thumb:
wow that stuff looks great and soo much fun to ride, i think we should extend our skinny a bit more, with the bits at the top of the hill, the corner looks fun on the bottom picture, ACE
that corner does look proper bo yea!
Also with north shore like that you dont need it to be on to much of a hill.
Maybe at the end after the seesaw.
It would be good to have low technical stuff:cool: :thumb:
True Saxon
25-09-05, 08:12
i (personally) think that this low level stuff would quickly become boring.
If you want, i carry a can of setting out paint in my car, i could mark a course out on the ground for you?
There will eventually be some low level features built on the xc loop but this will be more of an after thought to the main trails.
Somewhere to use up the wood and stuff that we cant use on any "bigger" features.
[correct me if i am wrong, mr fish]
your right,however the very tricky skinny will slowly grow so there's that to think about how you would like it:D
Where is that pace in the pic? Me and my dad mite av to go check it out!!
Chicksands have crammed a lot of shore into a small area and most of it looks jey as fcuk until you ride it...narrow, twisty and undulating but great fun.
;) ;) :thumb:
Back to the flow show poll, I had to vote for shallow graves as it allways get the blood pumping.
What is shallow graves cos every one is talkin bout it and i dont know what it is
:?
Originally posted by Baker
What is shallow graves cos every one is talkin bout it and i dont know what it is
:?
its the next trail feature after woodstock and has the 8ft roll down and drop over the ditch :devil:
True Saxon
27-09-05, 19:08
eagle eyed folks will have spotted a named photo link at the start of this thread;)
it was my first visit today, so ive voted for splashdown, but hopefully over time ill be building up to kfc and FT2's sister.
I was thinkin bout what new stuff we could have on the hill and then saw in MBUK shore tour a big gap jump made from wood and thought itd be good!! What bout you lot!! Oh and is any one comin ridin on saturday?
I merged your thread baker, didnt see a need for a new one when we have this one ;)
First of all, not sure if you saw my post on Gravity Slaves but wanted to apologise to Mr Fish for coming over without giving you a bell first - it was a quick visit of a couple of hours and I didn't want to drag you away from work just for that.
It was my first visit and the conditions were crappy after heavy rain...very slippery ground and wood...and coz I was on my own I was being very cautious - wouldn't want to be up there on my own with a busted limb or something.
What was most noticable was the completely different approach to somewhere like Chicksands - Flow Show is more like a downhill course with shore sections, and Chicky is more technical and handling skillz oriented. I thought you'd made excellent use of what is a pretty gentle hillside - this will give hope to many who live in fairly flat areas.
I thought the quality of construction was excellent - nothing creaked or swayed (like at Steetly for instance!) and the warning signs are clear and adequate to stop people accidentally straying onto the features.
I thought K.F.C. was a really nice and spent some time sessioning it at different speeds just to get some drop practice - hucking is all kinda new to me!
I was psyching to drop FT2 but coz of the slipperyness was worried about the landing. As a test, I hit Sister very fast (too fast!), madly tried to scrub some speed before Splashdown, lost it on the mud and managed to bail off the start of Splashdown onto my head. It hurt and put me off hucking for the rest of the day really.
Splashdown is a really nice feature and rides well - the skinny left exit looks good but was much too slippy to ride. Perhaps some chicken wire here?
Woodstock looks superb but to be honest I bottled the drop as it's bigger than anything I've done before.
Again with Shallow Grave, the drop wasn't viable (for me) as I thought I'd blow it trying to land and steer back on line in the mud. The stuff leading up to it was just too slippy but looked really sweet.
The see-saw is sweet - nice action, no "slap down" and a good way to finish the trail.
All the berms seemed well built and fun to ride - some of the jumps down the right hand side could maybe do with being tabletopped for learners, though I appreciate how much earth is needed to tabletop jumps.
I think a slower, skinnier, technical trail parallel to Flow Show might be a cool alternative, or, as somebody said above, a low-level tech section after the see-saw?
Lower but technical stuff isn't boring imho, and is as mentally engaging and sapping as riding at d/h speeds.
It'd be good to check the place out again when dry with some moral support :)
PS I doubt the FC would be keen on big gap jumps cause of the injury potential. Why not a big tabletop like the one at Hamsterley? That rocks.
i agree with bork low technical stuff would be awesome and a bit more chicen wire would help grip endlessly.
True Saxon
11-11-05, 18:41
Thanks for your feedback bork,
The name of the trail is flowshow, i think the name hints at our aim;)
imo KFC is one of the harder features we have, and FT2's sister is harder than FT2 itself.
As for a skinny trail, well thats where all the left over wood (stuff we cant use for bigger things) will be used.
And youre right about the gap jumps and the amount of dirt needed to build tabletops. Although wooden tabletops is an option.
Chicken wire is expensive, so untill we have a surplus, it will only be used where essential.
In the wet, chicken wire makes very little difference anyway.
i'm riding saturday afternoon. I'll be able to leave some more feedback this saturday when ive ridden it more thoroughly as last weekend was extremely wet and by the time i found the actual hill i was wet and caked in mud and it wasn't long before my dad wanted to take us home.
Ill be up tomorrow. Anybody else?
I will be will we be riding or just digging.
P.S tom your Pm's are full and so are yours ben.
Also tom my msn addy is chriscook2004@hotmail.com
Thanks
I have just deleted them
me n a mate in the afternoon for 2-3 hours newbies to the hill. Riding
12 ish hopefully although needed to leave for 3 half 3 ish
Originally posted by bork
First of all, not sure if you saw my post on Gravity Slaves but wanted to apologise to Mr Fish for coming over without giving you a bell first - it was a quick visit of a couple of hours and I didn't want to drag you away from work just for that.
It was my first visit and the conditions were crappy after heavy rain...very slippery ground and wood...and coz I was on my own I was being very cautious - wouldn't want to be up there on my own with a busted limb or something.
I was psyching to drop FT2 but coz of the slipperyness was worried about the landing. As a test, I hit Sister very fast (too fast!), madly tried to scrub some speed before Splashdown, lost it on the mud and managed to bail off the start of Splashdown onto my head. It hurt and put me off hucking for the rest of the day really.
firstly,apoligies arn't necessary mate,just glad your on board,however it does say in the blurb "don't ride da shore when your on your own" in case you bang your head :D oh yea ya did,how's the noggin?(pm me the exact details as i shall now have to submit a report to the fc as you have put it in the public domain ;) ) (but don't stress its not a big deal).
and........for the reasons you have stated yourself is why you should let us/someone(who knows the location) you are riding there :D .
i liked your feed back,very flattering :) i try,when i'm building to imagine that if a passing supertanker needed to moor up, it could use fork top or woodstock :fu:
can you make it on sunday? were planning what to do next :D
Originally posted by mr fish
oh yea ya did,how's the noggin?(pm me the exact details as i shall now have to submit a report to the fc as you have put it in the public domain ;) ) (but don't stress its not a big deal).
The bonce is fine thanks :) I had a headache for about an hour and it knocked the wind out of me a bit - nothing serious thankfully!
I take your point about the dangers of being there on your own.
Originally posted by mr fish
can you make it on sunday? were planning what to do next :D
Got an old school friend up this weekend so probably no biking - sorry :(
Originally posted by True Saxon
imo KFC is one of the harder features we have, and FT2's sister is harder than FT2 itself.
Why do you say Sister is harder? I think I'm just scared of the bigger drops - I found KFC and Sister ok coz they're relatively small drops.
if you just ride Fork Top the same as any other drop you will be fine.
I was looking on the MBUK forum the other day and found the esher shore web site www.eshershore.com and just thought it had some real good pics of trails on it. I also watched the latest mbuk dvd the other day. which had a large shore section in it and doddy was riding most the shore really slow and controlled. Thought a slow controled twisty skinny shore section would be really sweet.
Why do you say Sister is harder?
because both are more technical than simply hucking off forktop (a basic flat to trans drop)
sister and especially kfc are pointing down at the point you leave them this makes it more important to judge and think about what ur doing.
How about this for the latest addition to the Flowshow http://photos.nsmb.com/showimage.php?i=4555&catid=popimages&orderby=rating
God that must really disorientate you!!!
:p yeah seen that before, it must have cost loads! pipe bending en all, there is a video of it swimming around somewhere on the internet
He! One of the Drop In TV episodes had something similar, except it didn't move, it sort of spiralled so you actually went over the top. Showed one guy (Shaun Denny?) hitting it about 20 times before managing to get through it!
i dont think thats the same one that was on dropin, that one looked all sketchy. thisone looks really well built tho, looks like a whole world of fun. well, that or a whole world of pain, depends i guess lol.
Yes you're right they are definitely different. Reckon the Drop in one would be easier to build though!
Hatchleader
27-03-06, 15:46
The tech bits as i not too shody at those bits!! except see saw as i fell off that... and it hurt!!
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